14 thoughts on “Quality Issues”

    1. Oh dear, I am actually not happy to be right as I’d love to see Renault turn itself around. Why can’t aspirants to this sector learn to get such basics right? I had read in French car magazine that the cars it had driven at the launch event (and used to provide early benchmark tests against key competitors) left quite a lot to be desired in terms of build quality. This in turn reminded me of comments made about the Rover 800/ Sterling on its launch. Such first impressions are difficult to shift, and have holed many an aspirant below the water before they have left harbour,

  1. How come we, a bunch of amateurs (in the best sense of the term), are able to see how bad this is, yet a huge company employing highly skilled and talented individuals can’t? Even worse, from what SV says, how can Renault have missed the point that, if you are making a top range car, it should actually be well made? This is such basic stuff it defies belief.

    I can’t really agree with SV’s sentiments. If Renault haven’t got enough respect for themselves or their customers, then they deserve to fall hard. I’m heartily bored with feeling loyalty to undeserving brands.

    1. I guess their engineers could actually see it, but they couldn’t find a solution and launch date was pressing. Happens all the time, and not only in car industry. But I agree that a company aspiring to higher goals can’t afford to do such things.

    2. Sean, what appears to be my sentiment is driven on two levels.

      First, the economist in me reminds me that more choice is better than less (ceteris paribus) and there seems to me to be a dwindling number of truly separate companies playing in the “top range” car market (VW having a number of marques in the same market does not count in my book). Second (albeit related), there is a lack of real diversity in this market – that is, the vast majority of “top range” cars – are from a very similar mould, and I prefer to have some stronger flavours to select from.

      Obviously, prospects in the market are supposed to be making rational choices and hence shaping a market by their preferences for more conservative design and engineering evolutions over radical revolutions (to this month’s theme). I wonder out loud if that is because there are no thoroughly production-engineered and, thereby, well manufactured radical offerings out there to make such choices rational for the prospective buyer, and so create a market for something different. It’s interesting to me that what is perhaps the most radical current manufacturer, albeit still very new and, therefore, niche, is Tesla, and it has chosen to make it’s radical cars look so conservative and thereby give them a better chance of being adopted by the market.

      So, I have no special sentiment for Renault (although I do, still, for Citroen, alas!), but if a manufacturer wants to have a go at breaking (back) into this market of near-clones, I feel a sense of wishing it well for the reason I mention above.

    3. SV. Of course, in essence I agree with you. And I’m also aware that, if I hope ill upon a manufacturer, there are thousands of hopes and livelihoods involved.

      I guess it’s frustration and anger for me and, in the end, looking at various manufacturers ranges, do I care if there’s diversity of choice when, in essence, they’re so similar that it’s just an illusion.

      Yes, the Espace seems different from the generic SUV or crossover but, inside, it has accepted the same space compromises that come with most of those cars.

  2. Fascinating that this happened. I notice the same problem to a much smaller degree on the Opel Insignia where the top frame of the chrome window surrond does not quite meet perfectly at the crown of the arc. Apart from this the Renault looked very eye-catching. I can´t tell if I like it or not. It´s deeply spacey in its style.

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