Good News and Other News

Citroen plan to bring back a unique suspension system in 2017, reports Autocar.

One of Citroen´s hydropneumatically suspeneded cars:
One of Citroen´s hydropneumatically suspeneded cars:

“Comfort is a core value of the Citroen brand, and this is our way to recreate the benefits of the hydropneumatic set-up in a more modern, more appropriate way,” said Citroen CEO, Linda Jackson in Autocar.

This is rather heartening news. The report says that Citroen have been working in this for some time but no details were provided on what it might be. The system is going to prioritize comfort rather than handling. This is rather welcome news for any of us who feel Citroen has lost its way in providing technology that matches the brand’s new styling direction which Automotive News reported recently would emphasise ‘quirkiness’.

Without a USP that styling character would have been entirely empty. It is also refreshing that they are admitting ride comfort is the priority. There are plenty of cars that claim to provide sporty handling at the expense of comfort. These days, with traffic and speed limits making speed and handling something of pointless set of attributes, Citroen might be on to something new and old at the same time.

The news is also an antidote to the uninspiring fact that with the end of C5 production imminent the hydropneumatic suspension system will be consigned to the history books. I have argued that there are a few other systems which could allow Citroen to retain its comfort bias and give it a special character in keeping with its core values. I have suggested magneto-rheological suspension – whether this is what Citroen will use is not clear at this point. It will be genuinely interesting to see what it might be.

The same report also mentions that the DS brand will not use this system which is a bit odd. And it is also explained that Citroen will reduce its model range from 15 cars while also planning for increased volume. Which cars will not be replaced? Will we see a C/D class car to replace the C5?

Author: richard herriott

I like anchovies. I dislike post-war town planning.

17 thoughts on “Good News and Other News”

  1. Having had so much disappointment from Citroen in the past, and not encouraged by Ms Jackson’s mention of “….a more modern, more appropriate way”, I shall default to my customary dour cynicism and will be happy if I’m pleasantly confounded.

    I attach a photo of the installation that Linda has had produced for Citroen’s engineers to study in order to ensure that their solution is suitably ‘appropriate’ to Citroen’s current philosophies.

    1. I have to say, that’s very droll, or drole if you prefer!

      That aside, I am also intrigued by this mysterious, modern interpretation of a “hydro-pneumatic” suspension system that provides the benefits (without the drawbacks, is the implication). The fact that there are assertions that only Citroen models will benefit (albeit that DS has made similar claims of having a trick suspension in its plans) suggests to me that the capital and revenue costs of implementing it can’t be that great – if they were, PSA would surely want to disperse them over as many units as possible.

      The problem with all this is that I feel that tiny flickering flame of hope sparking deep down inside, which just proves that I’m still not cured from the Citroen bug.

    2. As I understand, the main drawback of HP is cost (from a manufacturer’s view). So in order to cure that, the “new” solution has to be something cheap (sorry, cost optimized) and available from an external supplier. That doesn’t leave a lot of hope, I have to say (although I must admit, it still hasn’t died inside me, either)

  2. My guess would be some sort of Magnetorheological damper set up. Either that or Citroen have found a source of soggy, shagged dampers from recently retired New York Crown Victoria taxi cabs. As to the Chinese wall being set up between Citroen and DS, it would seem that the dial is being turned towards “Comfort” for the former, the latter being “Sporty”.

    1. My feeling is the latter is more likely. Even if PSA was that generous with the budget, Citroen’s intended client base would have trouble spelling out magnetowhatsit on their play bricks.

    1. I’m not sure if they really have any new (and reliable) information. Announcements like this have been in the media for quite some time now (even in Autobild), and with the same pictures.

    2. The image isn’t inspiring. It’s like a Euroclone mash-up. Someone should ration the lines and features. We
      must be a Peak Crease now.

    3. Peak Crease? I wish I had your optimism.

      And what about Peak SUV/CUV?

    4. The image is actually pretty old. I remember seeing it quite a while ago in some other half-baked Citroen-related article.

  3. Citroen used Kinetic suspension (interconnected damper system for adaptive damping and roll control without antiroll bars) in its WRC cars before McLaren adopted the same tech for the MP4-12C and its descendants. So I will apply some naive optimism and speculate that they are going to offer the system in road cars.

    Alternately, thinking along Sean’s lines, maybe they are planiing a series of lowrider cars with bouncing suspension?

  4. In what way is the damping interconnected? Electronic? They plan to offer it on all their cars so that means it must be cheap enough for a C1 or C2. And yet good enough for the predicted C5…

    1. It’s very Citroenian and probably too complex for a B-class car. The explanation didn’t make clear why its HP with cylinders in place of spheres. I bet it uses LHM…

    2. The British put hydrolastic & hydrogas interconnected suspension in little cars so the French can get their heads around it surely?

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