29 thoughts on “Festive Teaser 2 – Mystery Concept”

  1. That looks like the Austin Rover AR6, to me. I think it has shades of the Audi A2, which came later.

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    1. Hi Charles. Yes, the image of the yellow car is reminiscent of this AR6 proposal:

      However, the drawing of the three variants is unfamiliar and looks more Citröenesque, as PJ suggested.

    1. It looks so much like a GSA I assumed it was a trick Q so it couldn’t be that.
      But if anyone else produced it, it would look as if they were shifting their entire ID towards the unconventional French company.

    1. Headlamp shape, door button release sans handle smacks of AX plus that distinctive upsweep of the rear wheel cut out. Was this a proposal for AX replacement?

  2. If not from Citroen. The inclusion of the small saloon suggests that it might not be a British proposal. The front lamps on the white cars remind me of the Astra F, so could be a Nova/Corsa replacement? The lack of rear doors and the lack fo grille makes me think Panda, but it seems to be too big, and doesn’t fit with Fiat’s styling of the time.

  3. These look like relatively early drawings, so might they be for a Golf II replacement?
    The grille-less front looks a bit like what the 1988 Passat had, and the general body shape reminds me of the 1981 Volkswagen Eco 2000 Concept:

    1. It has a hint of Renault and Gandini about it (R2, etc.), so it have been for le Regie?

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  4. I doubt that it’s from Citroën, despite all the cues. For an AX sketch it’s too late in 86-89, and for a replacement a bit early. Does the lack of a 4-door version and the inclusion of a notchback point east? The clever way to do more with less (a lot of shared parts for the three bodystyles) could be a sign of an economy behind the Iron Curtain. Trabant, maybe?

    By the way, is anyone else reminded of a Corolla liftback by the first image?

    1. I always thought that incarnation of Corolla was quite characterful.

    2. Daniel, that’s exactly the Corolla I had in mind. Quite characterful, yes, and it has been a DTW discussion topic at least once.

    3. Yes, Simon. Also one I like a lot, although the placement of the rear number plate was the subject of controversy when previously discussed here. I don’t mind it, but I would delete the superfluous bodyside crease that runs through the fuel filler flap. It doesn’t align with anything else and looks like an afterthought.

  5. It reminds me of the Opel Junior concept car by Chris Bangle, but he left Opel for Fiat in 1985. I’d say it’s an unrealized Corsa-replacement from Opel.

  6. Or perhaps it really is Bangle during his stint at Fiat, and the unrealized Panda-replacement it took Fiat another fifteen years to put in production?

  7. I am guessing it´s a VW Polo proposal and I think the designer is Gandini who probably first shopped the design to Citroen before swapping the badges for VW ones. The side profile drawings look Italian. If it´s ItalDesign I´d be surprised – I can’t imagine GG wanting to rip-off Gandini´s tic. Maybe it´s an Opel Corsas as some have said but there has not been a saloon or estate Corsa whereas in the late 80s there was a Polo in three different and oddly named variants: the saloon, estate and coupe and I can´t recall which was supposed to be which.

    (edited to change “can” to “can´t”)

    1. Hi Richard. Actually, there were two and four-door saloon versions of the Corsa A:

      The Corsa B and C had both saloon and estate versions (B estate below):

      So maybe the drawings above were proposals for a Corsa B range?

    2. Bah – I´d forgotten about the two door saloon Corsa and I had not noticed the estate version of the Corsa (Spain? Southern Yurrupp?)

    3. That generation of Corsa saloon and estate I’d rather had located sonewhere in Latin America, but the photo here is from Italy. I’ve never seen such an estate there.
      You should like that car, Richard, it has more than just an air of 95-03 Renault Mégane about it.

  8. If one of the guesses already nominated above isn’t correct, I’d venture that a Japanese manufacturer isn’t a bad guess. The time period fits with them finding their own feet in design terms, but it also has the trait of drawing on elements blended from various other manufacturers. I am tempted to say Honda.

  9. This is so (enjoyably) frustrating. I thought I remembered this from when it was first shown and that the front didn’t match its brand. It could be Honda, or GM… In the meantime, I’m having fun going down rabbit holes and discovering things like the Volkswagen Futura.

  10. With the acknowledgement that my first guess was obviously incorrect, looking again, the detailing does strongly suggest Ford – and the whole getup is remarkably similar to a KC-Laser-with-Gandini-flourish from that period.

  11. Well, credit is really due to Simon – once again. If only he had been a little less tentative.

    Should anyone be surprised when I tell them the proposals are for a new Trabant?

    Devising Trabant P601 successors was a constant activity at Zwickau, and sometimes further afield – with the 1970s ‘Comecon Car’ project, a venture intended to replace the Wartburg 353, Trabant 601 and the rear-engined Škodas with what would now be described as a ‘scalable platform’ range, built from parts sourced from all the Comecon states, not just those with established car industries.

    There are parallels with the many attempts at BMC/BLMC/ARG/Rover to replace the Mini and Metro. The most promising designs never happened at all, and what made it to production offered too little, too late.

    The white cars from 1985-6 are attributed to one Matthias Kaluza, and are described as “aerodynamically optimised studies for a Trabant successor”.

    The sketches of the yellow car are dated 1986. No mention of a designer, but the similarity to the Austin-Rover AR6 is so close that they could be from Sergio Coggiola’s studio, or the work of one of a number of British freelance designers.

    Austin AR6 sketch 1983

    Austin AR6 3 door prototype 1985

    The dates correspond with the time when the Barkas-Werke in Chemnitz was being prepared for production of the VW EA 111 engine, which found its way – far too late – into a heavily modified P601, along with a new end-on gearbox and MacPherson strut suspension. We can see the makings of a stylish and practical supermini with modern mechanicals. The trouble was that automotive research and development moved slowly in the DDR, yet at the end of the 1980s politics and people power were moving very fast.

    Škoda had managed what was thought impossible with the Favorit in 1987, producing a car good enough to appeal to western buyers by going their own way with the residue of the failed ‘Comecon car’ project. But that’s another story.

    1979 Trabant P610 prototype – this would have been the second stage of the Comecon Car project.

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